ROMv6!

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qwertyface
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Re: ROMv6!

Post by qwertyface »

at67, is it your position that there probably shouldn't ever be any post-Marcel ROM releases continuing from the v1/v2/v3/v4/v5a series?

I imagine that there might be some more context to this than is evident from the two recent threads on this forum, but I'd like to understand whether this is to do with timing/approach/speed/consensus/permission/style/personality or a general view that this is just the wrong thing to do.
at67
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Re: ROMv6!

Post by at67 »

qwertyface wrote: 12 Dec 2022, 10:50 at67, is it your position that there probably shouldn't ever be any post-Marcel ROM releases continuing from the v1/v2/v3/v4/v5a series?

I imagine that there might be some more context to this than is evident from the two recent threads on this forum, but I'd like to understand whether this is to do with timing/approach/speed/consensus/permission/style/personality or a general view that this is just the wrong thing to do.
Not at all, anyone is able to make pull requests for future ROM's, (as lb3361 has been doing).

My issue is when components of ROMvX0 or applications intended for ROMvX0 end up in a competing ROM before ROMvX0 is released, there's more to the story, but this is all that currently concerns me.

If anyone wants to use the ideas implemented in ROMvX0 for their own ROM's, (before ROMvX0 is released), then have at it, just implement them yourself is all I ask. i.e. you can study the source to roll your own code.
qwertyface
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Re: ROMv6!

Post by qwertyface »

at67 wrote: 12 Dec 2022, 11:58
qwertyface wrote: 12 Dec 2022, 10:50 at67, is it your position that there probably shouldn't ever be any post-Marcel ROM releases continuing from the v1/v2/v3/v4/v5a series?
Not at all, anyone is able to make pull requests for future ROM's, (as lb3361 has been doing).
OK, thanks for clarifying. For what it's worth, I think we as a community probably should be actively trying to prepare a new release in that series - the current situation where v4 lacks useful functionality, but v5a is not a final release (and has known bugs) presents difficulties for anyone trying to develop software that they want to be widely shared.

But I think that for anything to be regarded as an "official" release in that series would require a lot of consensus from the community, not just about whether it's desirable, or what version number to use, but about the goals of the release, and the process we're going to follow, and I don't think we got to that point in the other thread.
at67 wrote: 12 Dec 2022, 11:58 My issue is when components of ROMvX0 or applications intended for ROMvX0 end up in a competing ROM before ROMvX0 is released, there's more to the story, but this is all that currently concerns me.

If anyone wants to use the ideas implemented in ROMvX0 for their own ROM's, (before ROMvX0 is released), then have at it, just implement them yourself is all I ask. i.e. you can study the source to roll your own code.
I don't love the idea of "competing" ROMs; is there any reason we can't just let a thousand flowers bloom? There are a lot of different and interesting ideas for ROM designs to explore. Nonetheless, I can understand the desire to present your work as a whole, and when you're ready to do so. In a sense it's an artwork.
lb3361
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Re: ROMv6!

Post by lb3361 »

For the record, my wish was not to release a "competing ROM" but to help the making of a "community ROM" representing the collective achievements of this small community (and certainly not just my own work or taste.) I thought that we had sufficient material and that this was useful for the life of the community. I did not think it was a big offence. But so be it.
Sugarplum
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Re: ROMv6!

Post by Sugarplum »

I wish this project can continue. It sounds like an awesome ROM.
veekoo
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Re: ROMv6!

Post by veekoo »

I want to thank everyones contribution to GIgatron project. Without support it would not have been such a success. Both ROMs are needed for the hobby to continue. I know that everyone uses their free time and good will to continue support, it's not self-evident.
delpozzo
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Re: ROMv6!

Post by delpozzo »

lb3361 wrote: 11 Dec 2022, 01:59 Practically:
  • ...
  • Videopoker: We should contact the author. Also this is a big Gt1. Not enough space without removing something else.
FWIW, I grant permission to include VideoPoker in any ROM, no problem!
LechU
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Re: ROMv6!

Post by LechU »

I need some help with ROMv6.

How can I load this ROM's ("proposedROMv6.rom" and "proposedDEVROM.rom") into at67 "gtemuAT67".

I make "ROMS" subdirectory, put various ROM there but only a few are visible in ROM list (Ctrl+R). I also try to modify "loader_config.ini" but without succes.

Need any help...

Sincerely.
at67
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Re: ROMv6!

Post by at67 »

You need a lower case "roms" folder for the latest version of my emulator, "loader.config" is not used to specify *.rom files anymore.
LechU
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Re: ROMv6!

Post by LechU »

I'm using MS Windows 10 x64 Pro Polish. on antique i7-870 with 16 GB RAM.
I have "roms" subdirectory (in lower case) with:

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 Directory of d:\Programy\Emulatory\Gigatron\roms

18.01.2023  16:19    <DIR>          .
18.01.2023  16:19    <DIR>          ..
07.01.2023  03:13           131˙072 dev.rom		<-- OK! Can be loaded
07.01.2023  03:13           131˙072 glcc.rom		<-- OK! Can be loaded
08.01.2023  17:40           131˙072 proposedDEVROM.rom	<-- NOT VISIBLE UNABLE TO LOAD
11.01.2023  21:20           131˙072 proposedROMv6.rom	<-- NOT VISIBLE UNABLE TO LOAD
07.01.2023  03:13           131˙072 racer.rom		<-- NOT VISIBLE UNABLE TO LOAD
07.01.2023  03:13           131˙072 ROMv1.rom		<-- OK! Can be loaded
07.01.2023  03:13           131˙072 ROMv2.rom		<-- OK! Can be loaded
07.01.2023  03:13           131˙072 ROMv3.rom		<-- OK! Can be loaded
07.01.2023  03:13           131˙072 ROMv3y.rom		<-- OK! Can be loaded
07.01.2023  03:13           131˙072 ROMv4.rom		<-- OK! Can be loaded
07.01.2023  03:13           131˙072 ROMv4_bmwtcu.rom	<-- OK! Can be loaded
07.01.2023  03:13           131˙072 ROMv5a.rom		<-- OK! Can be loaded
27.12.2022  20:26           131˙072 ROMvX0.rom		<-- OK! Can be loaded
07.01.2023  03:13           131˙072 SDCARD.rom		<-- OK! Can be loaded
07.01.2023  03:13           131˙072 SDCARD_bmwtcu.ROM	<-- OK! Can be loaded
07.01.2023  03:13           131˙072 theloop.2.rom	<-- OK! Can be loaded
              17 File(s)      2˙097˙152 bytes
               2 Dir(s)  1˙826˙530˙168˙832 bytes free
But three of the ROM's ("proposedDEVROM.rom", "proposedROMv6.rom" and "racer.rom") are not visible in Ctrl-R list.
What is wrong?

Sincerely
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